Melatonin excretion versus intrinsic levels of melatonin: Very very different things!!! By Sari Grove

A heads up, I published this in my group, but you may not have seen it...


When you put someone in the dark for four days, their melatonin excretion levels are lower, but their intrinsic levels go up...


Darkness is what stimulates intrinsic melatonin production...


Excretion levels are what they measure...


Again- When inner body levels of melatonin are higher, testing excretion levels are lower...


Put someone in bright light, their melatonin excretion levels go way up...Ok, this is the flaw in the melatonin study...


They assume intrinsic and excretion are the same...People with cancer excrete less melatonin...


Think about it...People in bright light excrete more...


Night shift workers actually get much less sunlight than normal people...


The whole study is based on false assumptions...I am writing this as a cautionary note...


I know you are all in one melatonin, but I wanted to warn...I’ve been quiet for a long time about this...


No need for debate...Because I did not have surgery, I was able to image the lump in my breast after lots of melatonin...


So it became bumpier and irregular and fixed in place...


Confused I went to a TCM oncologist to explain- she said melatonin was making the lump worse- that smooth and round and even and moveable was the more desirable state...


My imaging concurred...So I stopped, and it got rounder smoother and smaller ...Anyways...


If you were excreting huge amounts of melatonin prior in testing then you were either very deficient or taking something detox that was causing it to excrete , or anaesthetic from surgery triggered the detox...


So you needed high doses...Dr V also needed high amounts after using topical black salve to remove her tumour...


However, it is one thing to need melatonin because of one of those reasons, find solace, and another to recommend this across the board for people with cancer...I find this problematic...


Excretion levels due to Herxheimer effect or otherwise, and intrinsic levels are very different...


Using serum or urine or excretion levels tests can steer one in the wrong direction...


Be very careful...Ok, going back to my group...Not wanting a debate, so I am going to go hide- really hate anticipating answers back...


Hugs and love, Sari Grove...


Ps.If you have cancer, you need more light, not less(melatonin is the darkness hormone- taking melatonin is like sitting in the dark more)...